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| TTGuyHK | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 11 Mar 2012, 02:32 | ||
Joined: 08 Feb 2012, 16:22 Posts: 34 Location: Hong Kong Hasthanked: 0 time Beenthanked: 1 time | richrf wrote: TTGuyHK wrote: @richrf, thanks for the patent description. I feel a bit loss after reading it I hope this new technology actually works as advertised, but I won't hold my breath for it. If the price is reasonable, EJers will try. Otherwise, it will be forgotten soon. My guess is that it is different but not necessarily better. There is a forum member over at MYTT who has ordered a sheet. Hopefully we will get a review. Ultimately, it is the quality of the top sheet and the sponge that pcounts. KTL is asking for an above average price for a sheet. Eacheng has it for $32 USD. That is mid-range between the cheap Chinese and the more expensive Tensors. If it has decent spin, speed, and durability and has a consistent manufacturing process then I think it has a niche. I'm personally looking for something that is priced in that range that has good durability and performance characteristics. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Your price point comment is well taken. However, if LKT is pricing its newest rubber like what they have priced others for the local market, I expect local price to be around USD25 -28. I hope my guess is right. USD32 will get me a Hexer+ or Barracuda with change; these are proven good rubbers. _________________ Play TT for fun. No rating. | ||
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| TTGuyHK | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 12 Mar 2012, 18:12 | ||
Joined: 08 Feb 2012, 16:22 Posts: 34 Location: Hong Kong Hasthanked: 0 time Beenthanked: 1 time | TTGuyHK wrote: I just stumbled across an ad about this rubber on a TT magazine. It was a full page ad! I guess Mr. Li Kuang Tsu will have to make some money on the Golden Star to pay for the ad I have a 729 Bomb and LKT Red Diamond (Golden Cake Sponge) sitting around waiting for another rubber. Let me give Mr. Li's office a call to see what is the selling price on this new rubber. I will bite if it is less than USD25. Will report back about the price. Just a side note, anyone tried 729 Bomb with LKT Red Diamond (first gen or Golden Cake Sponge)? The third gen of Red Diamond has been out for a while but it is a grippy rubber instead of a tacky one. Called KTL about the price of Golden Star, the guy on the phone only gave me a indicative price...it looks like it's around USD20, give or take. It is a reasonable price for EJers (that would include ME) to try out. _________________ Play TT for fun. No rating. | ||
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| richrf | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 12 Mar 2012, 23:35 | ||
Joined: 15 Nov 2011, 02:57 Posts: 38 Hasthanked: 1 time Beenthanked: 0 time | TTGuyHK wrote: Called KTL about the price of Golden Star, the guy on the phone only gave me a indicative price...it looks like it's around USD20, give or take. It is a reasonable price for EJers (that would include ME) to try out. Is this the price in China? I''m in the U.S. Where is the best place to buy it? Thanks. | ||
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| TTGuyHK | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 13 Mar 2012, 00:32 | ||
Joined: 08 Feb 2012, 16:22 Posts: 34 Location: Hong Kong Hasthanked: 0 time Beenthanked: 1 time | richrf wrote: TTGuyHK wrote: Called KTL about the price of Golden Star, the guy on the phone only gave me a indicative price...it looks like it's around USD20, give or take. It is a reasonable price for EJers (that would include ME) to try out. Is this the price in China? I''m in the U.S. Where is the best place to buy it? Thanks. It's office-walk-in price. I bought my TT stuff at brick-n-mortar stores locally or in China. Last time I browsed ttnpp site and found prices there are generally good, except there are some compliants on service quality (to be fair though, there were happy buyers). _________________ Play TT for fun. No rating. | ||
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| igorponger | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 03:00 | ||||
Joined: 10 Jun 2007, 09:24 Posts: 1433 Location: Universe Hasthanked: 21 times Beenthanked: 107 times | Can find no customer feedbacks in English about the rubber so far. Thanks. | ||||
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| TTGuyHK | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 09:49 | ||
Joined: 08 Feb 2012, 16:22 Posts: 34 Location: Hong Kong Hasthanked: 0 time Beenthanked: 1 time | I haven' t seen any Chinese review yet. As far as I can tell, the Chinese TT community is not too crazy about LKT/KTL rubbers. _________________ Play TT for fun. No rating. | ||
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| haggisv | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 10:10 | ||||
Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34 Posts: 33497 Location: Adelaide, AU Hasthanked: 2944 times Beenthanked: 1583 times Blade: Trinity Carbon FH: Victas VS > 401 BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX | KTL / LKT is from Hong Kong, and as such it's often not easily available in the rest of China... not sure why... _________________ | ||||
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| TTGuyHK | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 14 Mar 2012, 16:06 | ||
Joined: 08 Feb 2012, 16:22 Posts: 34 Location: Hong Kong Hasthanked: 0 time Beenthanked: 1 time | It's available at some fairly large sporting goods websites. I think the the reason is that there are way too many rubbers to choose from in China. LTK has broken the barriers to the mainland China market. And the pricing of rubbers is very competitive there. _________________ Play TT for fun. No rating. | ||
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| leatherback | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 18:54 | ||||
Joined: 18 Feb 2010, 21:44 Posts: 1105 Location: Canada Hasthanked: 228 times Beenthanked: 280 times Blade: Victas KMO FH: Yasaka Rising Dragon BH: Cloud and Fog III | my personal opinion is that they messed up by making two hardnesses... they should have made a multitude of them... and by that i mean they should have made the hardness of the sponge increase gradually instead of being soft and then all of a sudden hard.... i feel this rubber is going to have the "thors" effect....if any previous users know what i am talking about.... | ||||
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| foam | Post subject: Re: KTL Golden Star - NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 15 Mar 2012, 19:54 | ||||
Joined: 04 Jun 2010, 04:46 Posts: 2442 Hasthanked: 1 time Beenthanked: 81 times | I got so used to the Thor's effect I couldn't use the updated "fixed" version :~! _________________ | ||||
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| TTGuyHK | Post subject: Re: NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 16 Mar 2012, 00:25 | ||
Joined: 08 Feb 2012, 16:22 Posts: 34 Location: Hong Kong Hasthanked: 0 time Beenthanked: 1 time | leatherback wrote: my personal opinion is that they messed up by making two hardnesses... they should have made a multitude of them... and by that i mean they should have made the hardness of the sponge increase gradually instead of being soft and then all of a sudden hard.... i feel this rubber is going to have the "thors" effect....if any previous users know what i am talking about.... Please don't take it as if I am trying to defend the idea and technology in the making of Golden Star. Based on the the product info, it more like hard on the outer part of the sponge, then it becomes softer where the sponge is closer to the blade. I thought I would point this out to clear any confusion. Let's just assume Golden Star is made so that its playability is similar to Thors. At least true for locally, and perhaps in greater China, Golden Star will be sucesssful in terms of price competitiveness. Based on indicative price of GS, it is being sold at 2/3 of Thors' local selling price. Personally, I think LKT is trying to make a rubber with sponge that behaves like a Chinese rubber when the player is trying to loop, and behaves like a Euro/Japanese rubber for attack, push, block, etc. I am most interested to see what kind of top sheet GS has. Is it like the Chinese kind of hard, like DHS's Hurr of TG. Or will be like Tenergys and Tensors. I have got to make a trip to their office to get one! _________________ Play TT for fun. No rating. | ||
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| igorponger | Post subject: Re: KTL Golden Star - NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 19:58 | ||||
Joined: 10 Jun 2007, 09:24 Posts: 1433 Location: Universe Hasthanked: 21 times Beenthanked: 107 times | Have anybody tested KTL GS rubber by now??? is the sheet heafty or light weighed? Thanks | ||||
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| decoy | Post subject: Re: KTL Golden Star - NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 20:12 | ||||
Joined: 15 Nov 2010, 11:30 Posts: 1985 Location: Dublin, Ireland Hasthanked: 1 time Beenthanked: 21 times | deffinately ordering the two different ones next time i shop which is kinda soon _________________ Main: / secondary / LP | ||||
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| haggisv | Post subject: Re: KTL Golden Star - NEW LKT/KTL rubber Posted: 08 Apr 2012, 20:01 | ||||
Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34 Posts: 33497 Location: Adelaide, AU Hasthanked: 2944 times Beenthanked: 1583 times Blade: Trinity Carbon FH: Victas VS > 401 BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX | Here is a closeup of the sponge...coutesy of igorponger Anyone tried it yet? Attachment:
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... appearantly from a dealer in HK... looks cool!
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