You pull you tank question. (2024)

• 07-10-2024, 05:34 PM

  sindriiisgaming

  You pull you tank question.

  Ive been seeing significantly more of this since dt started-
  Tank says nothing for 90% then gets mad on final pull because sm1 else pulled. Refuses to tank the mobs and even the boss.
  Same story every time -

  Where exactly do the GMs stand on this issue. Where exactly do the tos stand on this issue? And where do you the players stand on this issue.

  Is it against tos?
  If not should it be?
  Are there exceptions where its okay to refuse to tank?

• 07-10-2024, 05:37 PM

  TaleraRistain

  What is the tank doing when they get mad? Refusing to tank anymore?

  I don't care if someone runs ahead. I just hope they use arm's length and bring them to my AoE range so I don't have to chase them to Narnia for aggro.

• 07-10-2024, 05:47 PM

  Ayalu

  Dpends in the situation.
  If i ask the Healer and the Healer want short pulls i would get angry that they undermine the preference of those that need to handle it.

  If nothing got mentioned in before i just take it as a sign to pull more but really...its not the DPS who should decide that its between Tank and Healer.

• 07-10-2024, 05:54 PM

  CamuiKushi

  YPYT could be considered lethargic gameplay which is reportable. A person in a role should be doing that role to the best of their ability, it's literally in the TOS. This can of course vary from situation to situation as Ayalu says.

  Edit: I will say, at the end of the day it's up to whether the healer can keep the tank alive so they should get final say. But if you're DPS and you want the tank to pull more though, just ask. The worst they can do is say no.

• 07-10-2024, 06:04 PM

  AngaratoSvartberg

  as a long time tank its extremely annoying when other people pull. specially in the newer dungeons. just chill and let them pull. if its "too slow" either ask nicely to pull more or deal with it.

  that being said i wouldnt be petty about it and stop tanking. however if i have to ask people multiple times to stop pulling and they refuse ill stop and boot that person out.

• 07-10-2024, 06:05 PM

  Saraide

  Quote:

  Originally Posted by AngaratoSvartberg

  as a long time tank its extremely annoying when other people pull. specially in the newer dungeons. just chill and let them pull. if its "too slow" either ask nicely to pull more or deal with it.

  that being said i wouldnt be petty about it and stop tanking. however if i have to ask people multiple times to stop pulling and they refuse ill stop and boot that person out.

  Activate sprint.

• 07-10-2024, 06:06 PM

  FudoMyoo

  It you want to pull, play tank.

  You pull you tank! /no question.

• 07-10-2024, 06:08 PM

  loosie

  As a tank, if healers or DPS want to run ahead and collect mobs for me, I welcome it. I'm there to play the game, not to pretend to be more important than I really am.

• 07-10-2024, 06:12 PM

  Tint

  Well here are the rules:

  Quote:

  Aiding the enemy / Uncooperative behavior / Lethargic behavior
  Refers to an act of performing actions that give an advantage to an enemy (monsters, or the opposing team/players in PvP content) by not performing the necessary gameplay required of the situation. This may be combined with combat sabotage as well.

  Each player has a different level of skill, and in some cases, there may be a situation where the duty/content will fail. From the perspective of a skilled player in such a situation, a less skilled player may appear to be "adversarial/uncooperative/apathetic," but even if this is the case, it is not a violation as long as the player is playing appropriately.

  For example, the following types of situations fall under the act of giving an advantage to the enemy (or the opposing team/players in PvP content):

  "I don't want to heal because there is a player I don't like in the group."
  "I don't think we can clear this anyway, so I'll just get hit by the enemy attack and go AFK after I'm knocked out."
  "I'm going to join the opposing team as a healer and do nothing so my friends on the other team can win the PvP content."

  If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

  Please note that Square Enix may conduct investigations and issue a penalty in its discretion even if a report has not been filed if the act has been confirmed publicly through online video, streaming services, or other means.

  So yes refusing to tank is against the rules. But running ahead and start pulling could be considered "uncooperative behavior" and "aiding the enemy" as well.

• 07-10-2024, 06:13 PM

  Nestama

  Quote:

  Originally Posted by FudoMyoo

  It you want to pull, play tank.

  You pull you tank! /no question.

  Okay but then like... why did the tank queue at all then? If they're not tanking, then they should leave. DPS will still be DPSing if they pull and Healers will heal when necessary if they pull. A tank not tanking should leave as they're not doing what they queued for.

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